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edited November -1 in GPS Discussions
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As I understand it, NAVTEQ provides the mapping and traffic information, and Garmin (in my case) simply presents the information. If this is true, then the old computing term GIGO certainly applies.
Road closure descriptions are reversed. Example: in reality, 107th Ave is closed at I-10. However, Navteq's description is 'I-10 at 107th Ave.' When I saw this and instructed the GPS to avoid the closure, it routed me off the freeway several miles early, then tried to put me on 107th Ave (which is closed) to rejoin I-10.
Some road closure and incident information is radically out of date. Example: 115th Ave is described as closed at I-10 (or rather, backwards: see previous), but it has been open for several months. There's also been an exclamation point on I-10 Westbound at exit 161 for Bog knows how long, although there's nothing there.
When planned highway closures are included at all, they show up simply as lane restrictions. Example: I-10 Eastbound was closed between 7th Ave and 7th St for two days. This is a tunnel, and it's down for maintenance every few months, so it's not a one-off thing. The GPS never picked up on this and tried to route me on a closed highway rather than detouring on, say, I-17.
Incident impact on traffic is reversed. The system shows traffic as slowing *after* an incident, rather than before.
Addresses are consistently off by 200 feet in all directions. I can be sitting in front of any random address, while the GPS shows 200 feet to go.
NAVTEQ doesn't understand that most divided surface roads have turn lane cutouts every 500 feet, thus causing unnecessary doubling-back and U-turns.
Highway and surface road speed limits are not updated. This causes the GPS to route me inefficiently because it thinks I-10 through downtown Phoenix (65 mph) is the same speed as the 101, 202, and 17 (which are all 55).
I-10 and AZ-51 are reversed. If I'm on a route exclusively on I-10 or 202, as I approach AZ-51 from either direction, the GPS tells me to stay right (get on the off-ramp from the 202 or 10), then left (which puts me on the 51), thinking this will keep me on the same highway.
Untimely traffic info: I'll see solid red on both sides of any given highway while I'm doing the speed limit in light traffic. I also see traffic at a dead stop while the GPS shows clear.
I can't believe I paid for this, both for the GPS receiver and the traffic receiver. There's no rational reason for this level of inaccuracy. Is NAVTEQ headquartered on Bizarro World?
Road closure descriptions are reversed. Example: in reality, 107th Ave is closed at I-10. However, Navteq's description is 'I-10 at 107th Ave.' When I saw this and instructed the GPS to avoid the closure, it routed me off the freeway several miles early, then tried to put me on 107th Ave (which is closed) to rejoin I-10.
Some road closure and incident information is radically out of date. Example: 115th Ave is described as closed at I-10 (or rather, backwards: see previous), but it has been open for several months. There's also been an exclamation point on I-10 Westbound at exit 161 for Bog knows how long, although there's nothing there.
When planned highway closures are included at all, they show up simply as lane restrictions. Example: I-10 Eastbound was closed between 7th Ave and 7th St for two days. This is a tunnel, and it's down for maintenance every few months, so it's not a one-off thing. The GPS never picked up on this and tried to route me on a closed highway rather than detouring on, say, I-17.
Incident impact on traffic is reversed. The system shows traffic as slowing *after* an incident, rather than before.
Addresses are consistently off by 200 feet in all directions. I can be sitting in front of any random address, while the GPS shows 200 feet to go.
NAVTEQ doesn't understand that most divided surface roads have turn lane cutouts every 500 feet, thus causing unnecessary doubling-back and U-turns.
Highway and surface road speed limits are not updated. This causes the GPS to route me inefficiently because it thinks I-10 through downtown Phoenix (65 mph) is the same speed as the 101, 202, and 17 (which are all 55).
I-10 and AZ-51 are reversed. If I'm on a route exclusively on I-10 or 202, as I approach AZ-51 from either direction, the GPS tells me to stay right (get on the off-ramp from the 202 or 10), then left (which puts me on the 51), thinking this will keep me on the same highway.
Untimely traffic info: I'll see solid red on both sides of any given highway while I'm doing the speed limit in light traffic. I also see traffic at a dead stop while the GPS shows clear.
I can't believe I paid for this, both for the GPS receiver and the traffic receiver. There's no rational reason for this level of inaccuracy. Is NAVTEQ headquartered on Bizarro World?
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- NAVTEQ has nothing to do with traffic info, it simply provides the map. Garmin uses Clear Channel for it's traffic service.
Hmm....NAVTEQ has nothing to do with traffic info, it simply provides the map. Garmin uses Clear Channel for it's traffic service.
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=36804Premium Traffic Subscription by Navteq – North America
Part Number: 010-11362-00
Suggested Retail Price: $ 49.99 USD
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Avoid traffic tie-ups in North America with a lifetime traffic subscription. Garmin, in partnership with NAVTEQ, delivers real-time traffic news and updates for all major routes directly to your compatible Garmin device.- They're still using both AFAIK, depending on which model and which subscription.
hmmm.....NAVTEQ has nothing to do with traffic info, it simply provides the map. Garmin uses Clear Channel for it's traffic service.
Hmm....
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=36804Premium Traffic Subscription by Navteq – North America
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Suggested Retail Price: $ 49.99 USD
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Avoid traffic tie-ups in North America with a lifetime traffic subscription. Garmin, in partnership with NAVTEQ, delivers real-time traffic news and updates for all major routes directly to your compatible Garmin device.
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With the purchase of select Garmin traffic receivers, you'll receive lifetime traffic¹ updates from Clear Channel's FM radio network. Garmin devices that are packaged with a compatible Clear Channel traffic reciever (nüvi 370, 660, 670, 760, 770 and Street Pilot 550) include either a 3 or 12 month Clear Channel subscription. Clear Channel delivers accurate, reliable traffic data directly to your compatible navigator via its Total Traffic Network.
http://www8.garmin.com/traffic/fm/clearchannel.html- The traffic provider (Clear Channel or NAVTEQ, both are used by Garmin) is determined by which Nuvi you have.
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=268 - Not sure I like the idea of a map company doing the traffic. Bad map info = possible conflict? :)
- I'm not sure if I understand the relationship between the provider and the data source. Is the actual incident reporting coming from Navteq and Clear Channel, or are they just providing the infrastructure to distribute third party data?
- There really isn't a fine line in many cases. To the best of my knowledge....
Clear Channel typically gets their flow data from Inrix, while gathering some of their own data for incident reporting. NAVTEQ, who recently purchased traffic.com, I believe is in a similar scenario where they are using road magnet/sensor data, as well as aggregating government data. (And Clear Channel is probably getting the govt data as well.)
So NAVTEQ and Clear Channel can be called 'carriers' in cellphone terminology, or providers as you say. However I believe they are also doing a mix of their own data collection as well as aggregation from other sources. - Regarding who provides what, I bitched at Garmin about data quality and was informed that NAVTEQ provides it, period. When I pull up the GTM-25 info screens on my Nuvi 205, NAVTEQ is the only provider mentioned.
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